Forum:Walkaround page names

As pointed out on the Seer: Descend talk page, the proper name for Seer: Descend appears to be Lalondiabound, something backed by Read MSPA which also has John: Enter Village as Egbertbound, Kanaya: Return to the core as Returniabound, and Equius: Seek the Highbl00d as Triterniabound. Now while some might argue this is grounds for a re-name I am going to go ahead and oppose such a measure, of course that is only my own personal view of it, I do believe it needs to be discussed, hence this topic. In previous arguments about the inclusion of Cascade in the Acts Navbox the point of its inclusion was stated to be because as a navigation template Cascade was an important inclusion for navigation purposes. As a wiki, navigation is an important feature, and changing these page names to very obscure names only serves to hinder navigation. That being said, the current names are not actually incorrect, the —bound names refer to the Flash, the current names are the pages in Homestuck, however these are essentially synonymous with each other.

Given that our MoS's general article guide is vague on this, as its instruction to use "the most complete confirmed canon name available" is useless when both names could be considered equally valid or the validity of each name is open to individual variation, but would probably be interpreted at the very least to a consistent naming scheme. As such the conclusion of this discussion probably should result in a slight update to clarify such situations. Now for pages with names clearly non-descript as to their nature or ones where the interactive segment spans multiple pages I think it is clear the Flash/HTML5/Word of Huss name should be used, so things like Myststuck and Openbound really don't need to be part of this debate. So a simple rule should be: "If the name of the Flash/HTML5 is widely known for whatever reason it can be used as the page name, if the name is not widely known than the page name on MSPA should be used, decision of widespread use of the name is up to staff discretion. On the release of new walkarounds, if available, the actual name of the segment as opposed to the page name on MSPA should be used as the page name on the Wiki."

Under this rule and the five pages this (currently) applies to this would be the result:
 * Past Karkat: Wake up/Alterniabound → Alterniabound on the Wiki (remains as is)
 * John: Enter Village/Egbertbound → John: Enter Village on the Wiki (remains as is)
 * Kanaya: Return to the core/Returniabound → Kanaya: Return to the core on the Wiki (remains as is)
 * Equius: Seek the Highbl00d/Triterniabound → Equius: Seek the Highbl00d on the Wiki (remains as is)
 * Seer: Descend/Lalondiabound → Seer: Descend on the Wiki (remains as is)

So after all these words all I have managed to say is "leave the status quo alone", well I hope not. To take a left out of Wikipedia's book, they also use the most common names when referring to some topics, such as people, where they use the most common name of a person as opposed to a person's real or fullname for a page name, but at the beginning of the article use the correct name. Take for example our favourite actor Nicolas Cage, his Wikipedia article is of course named that, however the article introduction of course refers to him as "Nicolas Kim Coppola" before mentioning Nicolas Cage later. As such, while something like Seer: Descend may remain the page name the page introduction could (and probably should) be updated to be something along the lines of: "Lalondiabound, usually referred to as Seer: Descend after HS 5595 (its page name)..." etc.

- The Light6 (talk) 13:36, December 12, 2013 (UTC)