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Currently of dubious importance, the number 413, or some variation of it, appears sporadically throughout Homestuck. The number is particularly fitting for a story about the apocalypse; 4 in many East Asian countries is considered unlucky because it sounds very similar to the word for "death" while 13 carries the same connotations in the West, and 1314 in Chinese numerology means "an existence" or "a lifetime" (which is a lucky number, though it's worth noting that 413 means "death throughout lifetime"). The number 612 appears to be its equivalent in Hivebent, and later on, 1025 (the added sum of 413 and 612) becomes another recurring number. The post-scratch universe B introduced in Act 6 has its own number, 11 11 11.

Use this page to list examples and sightings of 413.

Appearances as of Date[]

  • Homestuck proper began on Monday, April 13, 2009. The date the comic takes place is also April 13 as evidenced by the dates on John's calendar and Rose's walkthrough. April 13 is also significant in that it is John's birthday. Homestuck would also "end" 7 years later, on Wednesday, April 13, 2016.
    • All of Rose's TinyURL links in her walkthrough have the extension "/0413[File Name]," likely because April 13 is the date she took the screenshots.
    • In the first room of the underground base, Rose enters when the timer on the wall is set to 4 minutes and 13 seconds.
    • In the second room of the underground base, the control panel was automatically set to the date of April 13.
    • Dave, Rose, and Jade were all born in December, making them all 4 months and 13 years old at the time of the comic.
  • The old newspapers in Dad's safe are dated Monday, April 13 199-. This would mean the year they are from is either 1992 or 1998; however, the Betty Crocker facility was hit by a meteor on December 1, 1995.
  • Jade's, Dave's, and Rose's birthdays are on the first, third, and fourth of December, respectively.
    • On this pageHS, the first, third, and fourth of December are all marked on John's calendar.
    • The four dates John appearified some Paradox ghost slime from are the first, third and fourth of December 1995, and the 13th of April 1996.
  • Becquerel's birthday was discovered by Jade to be April 13, the same as John's. Since Becquerel came on the same meteor as the Frog Temple, that event must, therefore, have taken place on that date.
  • The Exiles command the kids from 413 years in the future. (Homestuck launch year: 2009, Exiles' year: 2422)
  • The Appearifier in the Skaianet Laboratory is locked ontoHS Jaspers 3,140 days ago (September 7, 2000, at 4:13).
  • After Jade took Dave's copies of Sburb from the Lotus Time Capsule in the Frog Temple, it was reset to open again in 413 years.
    • When the Sburb discs were first put into the capsule, it was set to open in 413 million years.
  • Jade first contacted John on April 13 (of an unspecified year) at 4:13 A.M.
  • In the Midnight Crew Intermission, Cans punches Droog from the 13th of an unspecified month into the following week. Though the month is not specified, the calendar page shown has thirty days and shows the 13th on a Monday, which matches the calendar for April 2009.
  • Jade's Dreambot took a photoMspa icon of the meteor heading towards Dave's house on 8/26/08. 826 is 413 times 2.
  • Jack: AscendHS was released on 4/13/10.
  • The end of Disc 1HS was on 4/13/11.
  • Dirk and Roxy landedHS 413 years after Jane and Jake (Dirk admitsHS that he and Roxy live in 411 P.C. when younger).
  • According to this panelHS, Act 6 Intermission 2 takes place on John's 14th birthday - or at least it does for the characters traveling the Yellow Yard. As such, the date in-story can be thought of as 4/13/10, one year after the events of Acts 1 through 5
  • The end of the fourth year of HomestuckHS was on 4/13/13.
  • This panelHS shows that it is Jane's birthday. Since, from Jack's tally marks in Act 6 Act 4, the current "date" in the post-scratch session is expected to be 4/13, it is implied that Jane shares this "birth" date with John.
  • John was reunited with everyone from the meteor as part of the 4/13/13 update, which was 4/13/12 in-comic.
  • In Hiveswap, one of Joey's diary entries is dated 4/13/1994.
  • In SBaHJ and the Quest for the Missing Spoon, the forum posts seen on the first intermission are dated 3/14/23.

Appearances as a Time[]

(Many instances appear using the 24-hour clock, e.g. 16:13.)

  • John first gets online at 4:13 P.M. He sees that Dave has been trying to contact him.
    • Simultaneously with this (12:13 P.M. local time), the pumpkin dropping onto Jade's head is disappearified by the Wayward Vagabond.
  • The countdowns on John's and Rose's Cruxtruders start at 4 minutes and 13 seconds. Dave's starts at 4 hours and 13 minutes thanks to Jade's forethought. Later when Dave is installing Grist Torrent, the Cruxtruder countdown is at 3 hours and 41 minutes.
    • When Rose connects to the new network, John's Cruxtruder is down to 41 seconds remaining.
  • The meteor impacts in the old newspaper articles are recorded as occurring "shortly after 4 a.m.", likely 4:13.
  • When Jade opens FreshJamzHS, two remixes by Dave, Showtime Remix and Aggrieve Remix, appear. Their duration together is 4:13 (2:02+2:11).
    • The page before, Dave had pestered her at 23:14.
  • The Reboot countdown in the Skyship Base started nonchalantly at four hours and thirteen minutes. After the Wayward Vagabond finished his game of chess, there were 4 minutes and 13 seconds remaining.
    • In the second room of the underground base, the control panel gave the time as 16:13:04 (or 4:13 P.M.).
  • Karkat pesters Jade hereHS at 13:04.
  • Another longer, countdown exists in the Skaianet Laboratory. We first see the countdown start at 3:14. It is also mentioned on that pageHS that Rose entered the lab "about a minute ago," likely at 4:13. As Rose fritters about the tea set and scarf, we see the countdown continue downwards from 1:43 to 1:34.
    • The Appearifier in the SkaiaNet Laboratory is locked onto Jaspers at 4:13 P.M. When Jaspers is appearified into Mom's room, the time reads 4:13:14. Additionally, when Jaspers reveals his secret to Rose in the past, the time is 4:13:13.
    • In Pesterquest, the SkaiaNet Laboratory's terminal has a timer displaying 4:13.
  • During the end of Act 3, Jade discovers a machine with a countdown. We first see it when it’s at around 4:30, but it cuts to Dave and Rose, and when we see it again it is at 4:13, which directly corresponds to the time on Rose's Cruxtruder when it is activated.
  • The time on Spades Slick's Crosbytop is 4:13.
  • When Clover appears for the first time, the time on the safe clock is 4:13.
    • The text on the same pageHS states that Clover appeared at the stroke of 4. Therefore, number four of the Felt was watching for 13 minutes.
  • When Spades Slick kills two Sawbucks with one sword, the time when the clock is destroyed is 4:58, and 5 + 8 = 13, making 413.
  • When Jade retrieves Dave's betas from the time capsuleHS, the clock resets to 413 years, 12 hours, 3 minutes and 14 seconds.
  • When it is 9:00 at Jade's house (13 minus 4), it is 4:00 at Rose's, 1:00 at John's, and 3:00 at Dave's.
  • On this pageHS, Dave's countdown is at 3 hours and 41 minutes.
    • And hereHS, it starts at 4 minutes and 13 seconds.
  • Davesprite claimsHS to have spent about four months in his timeline - suggesting that the exact time is four months and thirteen days.
  • The timer for The Reckoning at the End of Act 4 Flash reads 00:14 then 00:13
  • Karkat's first appearance is when he pesters Jade at 13:04.
  • Coincidentally, Karkat respondsHS to a memo which Jade participates in at 01:34, the time of which contains the three digits of 413.
  • When the timer for The Reckoning hits 0:13, 4 lights flash on and off.
  • Jade first contacted John on April 13 of an unspecified year at 4:13 A.M.
  • Seen hereHS, Terezi is separated from the responders to her memo by 03:14 hours.
  • The clock on the crocodile statueHS reads 4:13.
  • The animation for the Fear No Anvil's special attack in John: Enter village includes a clock displaying the time 4:13.
  • The trolls' version of Derse is destroyedHS with roughly 4:13:00HS left on the timer to the Critical Moment.
  • Around 3:14:00 left on the timer to the Critical Moment, Terezi watchesHS Coin-Flip Dave die and Vriska killsHS Tavros.
  • From 2:41:39 to 2:41:35 on the countdown to the Critical MomentHS, Tavros' corpse falls and lands next to Terezi.
  • The time capsule seen hereHS shows that 4 hours and thirteen minutes are left before it opens.
  • In CascadeHS, The Tumor is shown with 4 minutes and 13 seconds remaining on its countdown.
  • In Begin intermission 2HS, for a second after Lord English blasts off in the Cairo Overcoat an analog clock is visible. The time displayed on the clock is 4:13.
  • The first conversationHS we see between Jane Crocker and Calliope is at 11:17. 17 is the sum of 4 and 13.
  • This conversationHS between Jane Crocker and Dirk Strider takes place at 1:43 PM.

Appearances as a Random Number[]

  • The wireless network called SN_LAB0413 that Rose connects to is labeled "0413". This turns out to be related to the 413th hub on the Hubgrid, which was the only unlocked one out of 8400 hubs numbered 0 to 9999, skipping 2304-2495, 4800-5199, and 7504-7695, to make paths through the Hubgrid, and to the center.
    • Two sections of the grid read 0000-0143 and 0288-0431. 288 is 431 minus 143.
  • Dave's Bro has a copy of Complete Bullshit, a content aggregator, installed on his computer. The software's version number is 4.13.
  • When the Skyship Base traveled through the sky, its altitude was 4130.
    • Before it launched, its elevation was 341.3
    • When it started landing because fuel was empty, the altitude shown first was 3104.
  • Rose's Mom opens a secret passage in Jaspers' Mausoleum by pushing the 4th, 1st, and 3rd buttons on a keypad. The 3rd button is the last and also the only one seen being pressed, but the book commentary confirms it.
  • A deck of cards, to which there are several references, has 4 suits of 13 cards each.
  • On this pageHS, the pool balls on the right are 4,1, and 3.
  • As seen hereHS, Dave's (and by extension John's) version of Virtual Porkhollow is 41.3.
  • On the same page, the first six digits of the amount of money are 216,314. The first three are 612 backwards, while the other three are 413 backwards.
  • On the list of grists on the Porkhollow, the grist fourth from the bottom, a blue cube, one of the numbers that flash by in the first column is 3.41.
  • On this pageHS, in her burst of randomness Aradia types "+ ?*rand(413^612)" after one sentence.
  • Dave, John, and Rose all entered the Medium in Acts 4, 1, and 3 respectively.
  • The code to John's dad's safe is 024913.
  • In Hussie's self insert scene with FalcorHS, the magic dog's eyes flash as billiard balls in the combinations 4/13, 6/12, 3/14, and 8/8.
  • John has 9,413,612 Boondollars after ascending to the very top of his Echeladder by extinguishing the flames covering LOWAS with The Windy Thing.
  • When Terezi is showing Dave what reaching god-tier involves shortly afterward, she has 3 viewports open, one of which is viewing turntechGodhead41.
  • On this panelHS, one of the usernames is "gb_131334". The numbers in the username include one 4, two 1s, and three 3s.
  • On this pageHS, one of the readings near the bottom says "41.3455".
  • Repeatedly and in different combinations in the Trickster Mode transition for Alterniabound.
  • On this pageHS, Rose is seen writing numbers on cans. The can she is holding reads "413 4".
  • During this flashHS, the cards John places down when playing solitaire are a 4, an ace and a 3. Since an ace is the equivalent of a 1 in a deck of cards this makes the number 413.
  • Dave is shown to have at least 41 separate timelinesHS, and 13 Daves are present at onceHS when Jade is viewing that same time period.
  • On this pageHS, Caliborn types "HAA." 275 times. But if you count the number of letters/symbols in "HAA." you get 4. In each column of his typing, not counting the first and last column, it says "HAA." 13 times.
  • During Mallek's route in Hiveswap Friendship Simulator: Volume Eleven, a sewer is seen with the numbers "41" painted in the background, along with a mark indicating another number in the sequence, which is likely “3”.
  • The hex code #4bec13 (and other close permutations) denotes a shade of green similar to those associated with Becquerel, the Sburb Beta logo, Lord English’s text, and the Green Sun.
  • On this pageHS, it's shown that Act 1031 of the Midnight Crew adventureHSbegins on a URL that begins with "".

Appearances related to the Characters[]

  • There are four Homestuck Kids, each originally 13 years of age. Note that John was only 10 during the Homestuck Beta (Which premiered on April 10.)
  • Dad's username for Serious Business is Pipefan413.
    • In-universe, this may be a case of him using his son's birthday in his username.
  • Jade has 52 Captchalogue Cards which, when no Fetch Modus is selected, are arranged into thirteen stacks of four.
  • At the beginning of the Midnight Crew Intermission, there are 4 members of the Midnight Crew and 13 living members of the Felt.
  • Playing cards, which symbolically represent the Midnight Crew and the quadrants, are associated with the number 413, as there are 4 suits of cards and 13 cards within a suit, as well as a group of 13-year old trolls trying to find matches in four different quadrants.
  • In one of the pagesHS where Hearts Boxcars is struggling with Eggs and Biscuits, there are four visible Biscuits (associated to the number 13) and 6 visible Eggs (associated to the number 12).
  • For a moment after HB eats EggsHS, the only members of the Felt left in the room are Clover (4) and Biscuits (13).
  • While Clover presentsHS his riddles to the Midnight Crew, there are three pool balls in the lower-right corner of the image: a 4-ball, a 1-ball, and a 3-ball, in this order.
  • Terezi and Latula's typing quirks consist of replacing each "A", "I" and "E" with 4, 1, and 3, respectively.
    • These substitutions, according to her character descriptionHS, utilize the "numerals that the blind prophets once used".
    • At one point, Terezi asks Dave to wire her exactly 413 boonbonds, once again citing the number's significance as the number of the blind prophets. Terezi is the only character so far to directly acknowledge the number as being significant, although Dave mentions that he has seen it frequently. When the money arrives in Terezi's account earlier in her timeframe, this extravagant and exact donation causes her to take an interest in Dave.
    • In the background of Terezi's roomHS, there is a chalk drawing of what appears to be a dragon with the text "BLAR" above its head. The "A" in "BLAR" is a 4, and the "B" in "BLAR" is made up of the numbers 1 and 3.
  • Vriska's blood hue is 134 in MSPaint, despite that the obvious spot to put her would be 140 (Kanaya's being 100, Terezi 120, Equius 160, Gamzee 180, et cetera).
  • On page 2230HS (4130 in the old URL), Vriska's doomsday device was activated.
  • In Becquerel's first spritelog, he speaks in a series of blinding green static. There are four rows of static, a space, one row of static, another space, and then three rows of static.
  • Adding together the digits of 4, 1, and 3 make 8, which is associated with Snowman and Vriska. The digits of 1025 (the sum of 413 and 612) also add up to eight.
  • Six Alternian Solar Sweeps is equivalent to thirteen Earth years; thus, one Alternian solar sweep is equal to two and one-sixth Earth years (2 1/6, which can relate to 612), and two Alternian solar sweeps are equal to four and one-third (4 1/3) Earth-years.
  • Similarly, there are four kids who prototyped twice after entering (Jane, Roxy, Dirk, and Jake), one kid who did two prototypings before entering (Rose), and three kids who did one prototyping before entering and one after (John, Dave, and Jade)
  • In the original pre-scratch/post-scratch combinations of players, there are 4 human kids and 13 aliens from their viewpoint, if Calliope's and Caliborn's relationship is counted.
  • First, one kid, John, gets to god tier in [S] John: Rise Up, then three kids, Dave, Rose and Jade during Cascade, then four kids, Dirk Strider, Roxy Lalonde, Jake English, and Jane Crocker during Act 6 Act 5 Act 1 x 2 Combo.
  • Andrew Hussie's sprite is 413 pixels tall and 143 pixels wide.
  • All of the kids have first names consisting of 4 letters, and last names of either 6 or 7 letters, adding up to 13.

Appearances related to the Acts[]

  • The summary of the first year's events contained exactly 52 (4 multiplied by 13) paragraphs. 52 is also the number of weeks in a year.
  • The End of Act 4 Flash was intended for and appeared to be posted on 5/31/2010, day 413 of Homestuck, though it was actually posted three days later.
  • The End of Act 4 Flash is 4:13 long, ignoring the preloader and the brief sequence at the end.
  • Dave, John, and Rose enter The Medium at the end of Acts 4, 1, and 3.
  • Andrew has said on the forums that Homestuck may be comprised of 3 acts, followed by 1 intermission and 4 more acts, which he later confirmed on Formspring.
    • With Act 5 being bifurcated, this could also read as 4 acts of kids, 1 act of trolls, and 3 more acts of kids.
  • Act 5 Act 2 lasted 1 year, 4 months, and 13 days in total.
  • Act 6 Act 3 began on 4/13/12.
  • Act 6 Intermission 5 ended on 4/13/13.
  • Act 6 Act 6 Act 5 began on 4/13/2015.
  • Andrew Hussie was killed by Lord English on 4/1/12.
  • The Year Four Megapause started on 4/14/13.
  • Paradox Space launched on 4/13/2014 at 4:13 PM EDT.
  • Summerteen RomancePXS icon ended on 4/13/15.
  • There are 143 [S] pages between the beginning of Homestuck and the start of the Gigapause
  • Act 7 was posted in its entirety on 4/13/16.
  • The final two members of the Troll Call were revealed on 3/14/18.
  • Hiveswap Friendship Simulator: Volume One and Homestuck: Book 1: Act 1 & Act 2 were released on 4/13/18.
  • The Homestuck Epilogues started on 4/13/19.
    • Candy Epilogue 2 consists of pages 4Candy through 13Candy
    • Meat Epilogue 3 and Candy Epilogue 3 both start on page 14

Appearances related to the Songs[]

Other Appearances[]

  • On this pageRyanquest Logo, starting from the top, there is 1 "yes", followed by 4 more "yes", then 1 more, and then 3.
  • 4 + 1 + 3 = 8 (The number of letters in Hivebent), and 6 + 1 + 2 = 9 (the number of letters in Homestuck).
  • Starting on this pageHS, the appearances of John's arm throughout Homestuck are grouped into four pages of thirteen panels.
  • on 12/10/10, ==>HS, the image depicts the end of Rose's skirt as a vague four, then herself as the one, and her waist sash as a three.
  • For the 4/13/15 Gigasale, everything in the Whatpumpkin store was 41.3% off.
  • Jailbreak has 134 pages in total. Its last pages were added during Homestuck's duration.
  • All-flash animations in Homestuck (including extra pages) weight roughly 413MB.
  • Book 3 of the physical Homestuck copies starts with Act 4, which starts with Gate 1.

Appearances outside of MS Paint Adventures[]

  • In the 1812 painting The Emperor Napoleon in His Study at the Tuileries by Jacques-Louis David, the time on the clock behind Emperor Napoleon is 4:13.
  • In the movie Saw VI, Jill Tuck's apartment number is 413.
  • The asteroid 99942 Apophis was predicted to have a small chance of impacting Earth on April 13, 2036 before later observations ruled out the possibility.
  • 413 is the area code comprising Western Massachusetts, where Andrew Hussie currently resides.
  • In the movie Face/Off (starring Nicolas Cage), a bomb is disarmed by the code 413. Also, episode 13 of season 4 of Breaking Bad was titled Face Off.
  • The bond energy of a carbon-hydrogen bond (C-H) is 413 kJ/mol. C-H bonds are the most common chemical bonds found in all life we have discovered in the universe.
  • 4 is a number of death in many Asian cultures, while 13 is a number of death in many European cultures. (Both numbers are often avoided in the floors of buildings, which may be referenced by Sburb's building aspects.)
  • 143 is a pager number used to communicate, "I love you".
  • In Adventure Time, Finn and Jake retrieve a video file at one point labeled "File 413".
  • 413 is the first three digits of pi backward (3.14).
  • In Steven Universe, a Nephrite gem is identified as "Facet 413." Given that one of the episode's writers, Danny Cragg, had his wedding officiated by Andrew Hussie, it's likely this was an intentional reference.
  • In 20020 (the sequel to 17776, which has been compared to Homestuck as mentioned by The New Yorker), the Football Tracker program in Chapter 3 is on version 4.1.3.
  • In the Futurama episode "Love's Labours Lost in Space", Zapp Brannigan opens his captain's log with "Stardate: April 13th."
  • From another project of Andrew Hussie called Psycholonials, on the day the Steam page was released, there were 14 days until the game would come out on February 3rd. Additionally, Chapter 8 of the game was released on April 13th, 2021.
  • In the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine episode 'Crossover', a Terran worker is identified as 0413-Theta.