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==In ''[[Paradox Space]]''==
===[[John's Birthday]]===
Karkat is seen in the background of the first panel of this comic. He is wearing a party hat and seems unhappy about it, though that might just be his base level of displeasure with the world around him.
===[[Prototyped]]===
Karkat gives the Beta kids a paraphrased version of {{HS|2928|one of his rants from in canon}}, chewing them out for making an unbeatable boss out of Jack Noir. Shortly after, it's revealed that this version of Jack can't actually do anything because he has no fingers on which to wear the [[Queen's Ring]], making him substantially more beatable. Karkat's reaction to this is not shown.
===[[Con Faire]]===
Karkat is part of John's team in the Teen Con Air Finals, standing offstage with Terezi to provide his unique brand of moral support. He tells John that his performance was {{MSPA quote|KARKAT|CRAP}}, but hesitates beforehand, possibly unsure whether to spare John's feelings. He is seen celebrating with the rest of the team when they win the trophy.
===[[Her Pale Passions]]===
Karkat is dismayed to find that his bookshelves of romance novels, which he had alphabetized by quadrant, were ransacked by a drunken Rose in search of something to read with Kanaya. We can see in the fifth panel that Karkat makes a habit of leaving notes in his books, scribbling over parts he finds disagreeable and commenting when he thinks something is wrong.
;{{PXS|97|Night at the 100dseum}}
;{{PXS|107|Soul-Fraying Games}}
;{{PXS|147|Garbage Day}}
;{{PXS|187|Holiday Activity Pages}}
;{{PXS|191|Secret Sufferer}}
;{{PXS|221|Three out of Five Hats}}
;{{PXS|236|Summerteen Romance}}

== In ''[[Pesterquest]]'' ==
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After intruding on Karkat's dream self and watching him sleep, you follow him to his hive on Alternia. He asks what the ever flying fuck you are doing in his room and you zap the fuck outta there. He eventually discovers your blood color one way or another in your array of 2 different dialogue choices. He freaks upon finding another mutant with crimson colored blood, and suggest you guys hide in a secret hole in the ground under his house in the most platonic way imaginable. To get the best ending, you have to flee out of the hole and zap Karkat to earth in Dave's apartment in Texas. He and John are there playing Tony Hawk.
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==On [[Snapchat]]==
:''From the reader's point of view, Karkat's Snapchat story picks up where his Canon biography ended.''
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Karkat wears a yellow shirt in attempt to cosplay [[Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff]]'s [[Geromy]], matching {{dc|Dave Strider|Dave}} and {{dc|Dirk Strider}}'s [[Hella Jeff]] and [[Sweet Bro]] costumes.

== In ''[[The Homestuck Epilogues]]'' ==
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{{Chatlink|jake|dc}} {{Chatlink|dave|dc}} {{EP|meat/30|Chapter 30|none}}<br />
{{Chatlink|dave|dc}} {{Chatlink|jake|dc}} {{EP|meat/34|Chapter 34|none}}<br />
{{Chatlink|dave|dc}} {{EP|meat/38|Chapter 38|none}}<br />
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Shortly after {{dc|John Egbert|John}} leaves, we see {{dc|Dave Strider|Dave}} and Karkat sitting at their home in the Troll Kingdom watching tv. Dave sees the announcement about Jane running for president, and shows Karkat. Dave goes on to elaborate how Jane will be detrimental to the economy (frequently invoking Obama's untapped potential) and the troll race's rights. Though Karkat hesitates to put himself back in a leadership role, Dave convinces him to run for the presidency in competition with Jane. The two of them talk about rounding up endorsements from their friends and Dave receives a surprise phone call from {{dc|Dirk Strider|Dirk}} just as they begin to discuss {{dc|Jake English|Jake}}'s key role in those endorsements. Dirk very quickly makes yet another [[Collide|beheading joke]], and Karkat decides to proceed with {{MSPA quote|karkat|FUCKING LEAVING}} the room.

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{{Chatlink|jade|dc}} {{Chatlink|dave|dc}} {{EP|candy/9|Chapter 9|none}}<br />
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Karkat enters a sort of polyamorous relationship with {{dc|Jade Harley|Jade}} and {{dc|Dave Strider|Dave}}, but later runs away from it, presumably because of Jade's meddling but possibly also due to the increasingly dire political situation between trolls and humans. He later disappears some time after the funeral of recton-recruited teen Jade and starts been seen in resistance posters. Years down the line, he is the leader of the troll rebellion against {{dc|Jane Crocker|Jane}}'s antics, seemingly in secret cahoots with {{dc|Kanaya Maryam|Kanaya}} and {{dc|Rose Lalonde|Rose}}. At some point he encounters {{dc|Meenah Peixes|Meenah}} after her impact wearing the [[Rings of Life and Void#Ring of Life|Ring of Life]] she stole from John in the [[Furthest Ring]], and puts her as second in command, making the resistance not suck anymore. As seen later, he's apparently in a matespritship with Meenah and has lost an eye, causing him to wear an eyepatch.
He appears briefly at Dave and Jade's wedding, now part of the rebellion as well, but appears to remain distant with both of them. After conversing with {{dc|John Egbert|John}}, he quickly absconds when he sees Dave approaching the balcony they were talking on.
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== In ''[[Homestuck: Beyond Canon]]'' ==
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| caption = {{MSPA quote|epilogue karkat|THE REALLY FUCKED UP THING IS I MIGHT BE THE MOST OKAY OUT OF ALL OF US, WHICH IS HOW YOU KNOW SHIT HAS REALLY GONE GLOBES UP.}} {{HS2|116}}
| age = Over 17 Alternian solar sweeps / 37 Earth years{{Cite}}
| relations = [[Dave Strider]] - [[Matesprit]]{{HS2|116}}
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{{Chatlink|dave|dc}} {{Chatlink|alt calliope|dc}} {{HS2|99|i enter.|none}}(4 pp.)<br />
{{Chatlink|dave|dc}} {{Chatlink|roxy|dc}} {{Chatlink|alt calliope|dc}} {{HS2|103|the rogue is also awake.|none}}(3 pp.)<br />
{{Chatlink|roxy|dc}} {{HS2|116|meanwhile...|none}}(3 pp.)<br />
{{Chatlink|dave|dc}} {{HS2|291|CHAPTER 12. Really Convoluted Metaphorical Horseshit|none}} (12 pp.)<br />
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{{Chatlink|calliope|dc}} {{HS2|757|ADDENDUM 1: MEAT|none}} (8 pp.)<br />
{{Chatlink|jane|dc}} {{Chatlink|jake|dc}} {{Chatlink|calliope}} {{HS2|772|{{arrow}}|none}}
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Karkat {{HS2|99|first appears}} in Chapter 3, ''How Are Your Feelings'', aboard Jake's ship with {{dc|Dave Strider|Dave}}, {{dc|Kanaya Maryam|Kanaya}}, {{dc|Alternate Calliope|Alternate Calliope}} (possessing the body of {{dc|Jade Harley|Jade}}), {{dc|Roxy Lalonde|Roxy}} and {{dc|Calliope}}. Alternate Callie frightens him and Dave awake in the middle of the night, and, unable to go back to sleep, they traipse into the kitchen for some coffee. After Dave leaves to talk to Kanaya, Karkat airs out some of his anxieties rearding the former to Roxy. This quickly spirals into him worrying about everyone on board, and lamenting his perceived failure as a leader. He feels unworthy of the sympathy he's been receiving, wondering aloud why he seems not to have had to deal with the same problems as everyone else. Eventually, Roxy offers him pancakes, which he accepts. In {{HS2|291|Chapter 12}}, ''Really Convoluted Metaphorical Horseshit'', he is seen in the laundry room with Dave, who is seen mumbling about his interaction with Kanaya. Karkat convinces Dave to talk more in depth about his inner fears surrounding his friends, {{dc|Dirk Strider|Dirk}}, and Karkat's mortality. Karkat then reassures Dave about his worries, stating that while they didn't handle everything perfectly, not everything was Dave's fault, and Karkat isn't going to let Dave {{MSPA quote|epilogue karkat|SIT AROUND AND WATCH [HIM] GET OLD}}. The chapter ends in them kissing on the washing machine.

===Gallery===
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{{Chatlink|meenah|dc}} {{Chatlink|swifer|dc}} {{HS2|176|({{arrow}})|none}} (3 pp.)<br />
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{{Chatlink|john|dc}} {{HS2|365|({{arrow}})|none}} (11 pp.)<br />
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{{Chatlink|meenah|dc}} {{Chatlink|sollux|dc}} {{Chatlink|lobsters}} {{HS2|621|(An hour later.)|none}} (5 pp.)<br />
{{Chatlink|kanaya|dc}} {{Chatlink|meenah|dc}} {{HS2|674|(Commanders: Congregate.)|none}} (3 pp.)<br />
{{Chatlink|vriska|dc}} {{Chatlink|vrissy}} {{Chatlink|harry anderson}} {{Chatlink|meenah|dc}} {{Chatlink|kanaya|dc}} {{Chatlink|jane|dc}} {{Chatlink|john|dc}} {{Chatlink|jake|dc}} {{Chatlink|roxy|dc}} {{Chatlink|sollux|dc}} {{Chatlink|jade|dc}} {{Chatlink|calliope|dc}} {{Chatlink|tavros crocker}} {{Chatlink|lobsters}} {{Chatlink|rose|dc}} {{HS2|727|({{arrow}})|none}} (4 pp.)<br />
{{Chatlink|jade|dc}} {{Chatlink|john|dc}} {{Chatlink|kanaya|dc}} {{Chatlink|roxy|dc}} {{Chatlink|jake|dc}} {{Chatlink|calliope|dc}} {{Chatlink|jane|dc}} {{Chatlink|meenah|dc}} {{Chatlink|rose|dc}} {{HS2|742|(YOU ARE NOT.)|none}} (3 pp.)<br />
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{{Stub|section|expansion on Karkat's role in ''Beyond Canon''{{'}}s prologue}}
Karkat {{HS2|175|reappears}} in Chapter 7, ''Distress Call from the Closet'', as Commander Vantas of the Troll Rebellion. He and Meenah discuss {{dc|Gamzee Makara}}'s death, and the fact that {{dc|Vriska Serket}} has returned to the narrative. Seeking to further sway public opinion in his favour, he contacts John. After learning about his son's actions, John grows estatic and tells Karkat he knows how the Rebellion can win.

Karkat later approaches John after his house has been blown up by one of Crockercorp's ships. After reprimanding John for his lack of action in the general landscape of the recent years, he scolds him for attempting to make Karkat {{HS2|368|{{MSPA quote|epilogue karkat|DISCUSS {{b|HIS}} "FEELINGS" ABOUT DAVE}}}}. John, realising Karkat hadn't received the news, informs him Dave was found dead earlier.

Karkat is in the middle of the {{HS2|617|{{MSPA quote|epilogue karkat|ESCALATING, LARGE-SCALE MILITARY CONFLICT}}}} when news drops of {{dc|Jane Crocker}}'s planned attack on the hidden [[meteor]] laboratory containing [[Plot Point|{{Plot Point}}]].{{HS2|617}} Rendezvousing with {{dc|Meenah Peixes}}, the two assemble the {{MSPA quote|meenah|mothafuckin}} [[LOBsTERs]] and roll out toward the conflict point.{{HS2|620}} On the way, Meenah corners him into a much-needed feelings jam about the wayward {{dc|Dave Strider}}, which is thankfully interrupted by an equally needed call from {{dc|Sollux Captor}}, who needs someone to get his {{MSPA quote|sollux|grubereats}} order in past the military blockade.{{HS2|623}}
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